ISM Statement on the Murder of Rachel Corrie by ISM 6:32am Mon Mar 17 '03 At about 5.20 pm today Rachel Corrie from Olympia in Washington State, USA died of her injuries in A-Najar Hospital in Rafah after being deliberately run over by an Israeli military bulldozer. print article Rafah:  Rachel Corrie Murdered by Israeli Army At about 5.20 pm today Rachel Corrie from Olympia in Washington State, USA died of her injuries in A-Najar Hospital in Rafah after being deliberately run over by an Israeli military bulldozer. Rachel had been working as an ISM activist in Rafah for seven weeks when she was killed trying to prevent the demolition of Palestinian homes and property in the Hi Salaam area of Rafah.  The confrontation between the ISM and the Israeli Army had been under way for two hours when Rachel was run over.  Rachel and the other activists had clearly identified themselves as unarmed international peace activists throughout the confrontation. The Israeli Army are attempting to dishonour her memory by claiming that Rachel was killed accidentally when she ran in front of the bulldozer.  Eye-witnesses to the murder insist that this is totally untrue.  Rachel was sitting in the path of the bulldozer as it advanced towards her.  When the bulldozer refused to stop or turn aside she climbed up onto the mound of dirt and rubble being gathered in front of it wearing a fluorescent jacket to look directly at the driver who kept on advancing.  The bulldozer continued to advance so that she was pulled under the pile of dirt and rubble.  After she had disappeared from view the driver kept advancing until the bulldozer was completely on top of her.  The driver did not lift the bulldozer blade and so she was crushed beneath it.  Then the driver backed off and the seven other ISM activists taking part in the action rushed to dig out her body.  An ambulance rushed her to A-Najar hospital where she died. Rachel joins 1,900 Palestinians who have been killed by Israeli soldiers and settlers since September 2000, For further information contact: •      Tom on     +972 52 694 380 •      Joe on      +972 67 628 507 or •      Nick on     +972 55 874 693   Rachel had been staying in Palestinian homes threatened with illegal demolition, and today Rachel was standing with other non-violent international activists in front of a home scheduled for illegal demolition. According to witnesses, Rachel was run over twice by the Israeli military bulldozer in its process of demolishing the Palestinian home. Witnesses say that Rachel was clearly visible to the bulldozer driver, and was doing nothing to provoke an attack. The photos below clearly show that Rachel was well marked, had a megaphone, and posed no threat to the bulldozer driver. A clearly marked Rachel Corey, holding a megaphone, confronts an Israeli bulldozer driver attempting to demolish a Palestinian home, Rafah, Occupied Gaza, 16 March 2003. (ISM Handout) Other peace activists tend to Rachel after being injured by the Israeli bulldozer driver, Rafah, Occupied Gaza, 16 March 2003. (ISM Handout) Rachel Corey lies on the ground fatally injured by the Israeli bulldozer, Rafah, Occupied Gaza, 16 March 2003. (ISM Handout) Rachel in Najjar hostpital, Rafah, Occupied Gaza. Ha'aretz newspaper reported that Dr. Ali Musa, a doctor at Al-Najjar, stated that the cause of death was "skull and chest fractures". ( Mohammad Al-Moghair) Colleagues of Rachel comfort each other in Najjar hostpital, Rafah, Occupied Gaza. Ha'aretz newspaper reported that a second activist was also injured at the same location. ( Mohammad Al-Moghair) Rachel Corey (ISM Handout) www.palsolidarity.org add your comments Source file

Israeli soldiers kill American peace activist by Palestine Monitor 6:43am Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment Israeli soldiers kill American peace activist in Rafah 16 March 2003 Israeli soldiers this evening killed an American peace activist from the Grassroots International Protection for Palestinians (GIPP)/ISM in the Al-Salam neighbourhood of Rafah city, in the south of the Gaza Strip. The girl, Rachel Corey, 23 years old from the state of Washington, was killed while she was trying to prevent Israeli army bulldozers from destroying a Palestinian home. Other foreigners who were with her said the driver of the bulldozer was aware that Rachel was there, and continued to destroy the house. Initially he dropped sand and other heavy debris on her, then the bulldozer pushed her to the ground where it proceeded to drive over her, fracturing both of her arms, legs and skull. She was transferred to hospital, where she later died. Another foreigner was also injured in the attack and has been hospitalized - at this stage his nationality is unknown. Dr. Mustafa Barghouthi, from the Palestinian non-governmental network (PNGO) which spearheaded the GIPP campaign said, "The killing of Rachel is a tragedy. We express our sorrow, anger and disgust at this cold blooded murder and we call for international condemnation of this event, and the ongoing Israeli policy of indiscriminate killings of Palestinians and internationals. Furthermore it is an extremely dangerous precedent as it means the Israeli army is ready to kill international peace activists in order to frighten them away, so that the army can carry out its crimes against Palestinians without witnesses and with impunity. This is especially dangerous with the impending gulf war. We call for more internationals to come at this terrible time, and not let the Isralei military isolate Palestinians." add your comments

Article/pictures from Electronic Intifada by Electronic Intifada 6:45am Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1248.shtml electronicintifada.net/v2/article1248.sh... add your comments

outrageous by km 8:11am Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment how sickening! outrageous!!! i can hardly believe that this has gone on --i hope this news gets out big time & something is done about it ---altho nothing will suffice for the deed... add your comments

No ... by jackslucid 10:20am Mon Mar 17 '03 jackslucid@hotmail.com print comment ... in fact I think I am going to make myself worse, maybe even act on my 'paranoia' ... Total resistance KP.SS, total resistance .... add your comments

You are totally innocent by jackslucid 12:55pm Mon Mar 17 '03 jackslucid@hotmail.com print comment and have never done anything wrong ... ... she was driving the bulldozer herself, and anyway, it wasn't a bulldozer, it was a bike, and anyway the bike wasn't even there, and besides israel doesn't even have any bikes, it was a plaestinain suicide skateboard and the israeli bulldozer was trying to save the girl, who killed herself by trying to break the bulldozer that doesn't exist because secretly she hates all jews pathalogically ... DOESN'T CONVINCE ANYONE Total resistance No justice, no peace. add your comments

Get out of the way or die by USAF 1:07pm Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment Anti-War Protesters Beware By Associated Press Associated Press | March 17, 2003 Security forces at Vandenberg Air Force Base may use ``deadly force'' against protesters if they infiltrate the military complex if a war starts, officials said. Some anti-war activists plan to trespass onto base grounds in hopes of disturbing Vandenberg's mission and to vandalize sensitive equipment they contend helps guide the war effort. Vandenberg officials revealed Friday that military security police may shoot to kill, if necessary, to protect base residents and machinery. The directive has always been in existence, but a base spokeswoman said it is more critical now that people understand its severity. ``This is not fun and games anymore,'' said Maj. Stacee Bako. ``We're living in post 9/11. We don't know what's going to happen with the war effort in Iraq. These folks have got to realize their actions. ... They're illegal intruders.'' Military police will use their ``judgment, experience and training'' to determine if lethal force is necessary, she said. ``Deadly force can be used when lesser means of force aren't feasible or have failed, and to protect (Department of Defense) assets designated as vital to the national security,'' she explained. The deadly force policy will not deter protesters, said Peter Lumsdaine of the Vandenberg Action Coalition, one of the organizers of the planned trespassing. ``I think it does underline that people in the nonviolent resistance movement are willing to take some risks,'' Lumsdaine said. A Guadalupe man jumped onto the base's entrance sign Friday and sprayed it with 4 ounces of his own blood in a symbolic gesture of his anti-war stance. Dennis Apel, 52, later pleaded guilty to misdemeanor counts of trespassing and vandalism. He will be sentenced next month in a Santa Barbara federal court and faces a possible jail sentence or fine. ``We wanted them to see some blood,'' said Apel, a member of Guadalupe Catholic Worker, a social reform movement. ``We wanted them to in some way visually experience the consequences of what they're doing.'' Vandenberg has been on heightened alert since the 2001 terrorist attacks, with barricades near sensitive equipment and tighter access to the classified installation. Bako said the security measures, including the deadly force decree, are necessary because of the threat of biological weapons. ``It's impossible for us to determine what their intent is,'' she said. ``Are they protesters? Are there terrorists in that group and (do) they plan on killing everyone on base? They all have to be dealt with as very specific threats, whether they're vandalizing a sign, crossing the green (no trespassing) line or infiltrating the backcountry.'' add your comments

Must Corrie die twice? by Greg G 2:35pm Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment Apparently, Rachel Corrie must die twice: Once under a bulldozer, and once again, based on comments I've seen about this article so far, at the hands of right-wing apologists who shed tears for the tender feelings of armed professionals while despoiling the memory of Corrie's courage. Rachel Corrie died in protection of humanity. As US forces will, almost undoubtedly, within a few hours commit to a program of mechanized slaughter, it is imperative to our future to recognize what true courage is. She showed it. add your comments

Rachel Corey is "Peace" by Christopher Zierow 3:03pm Mon Mar 17 '03 christophgreen@sysmatrix.net print comment ITS IMPORTANT FOR ANYONE WHO DID NOT HAVE THE OPPERTUNITY TO MEET RACHEL TO KNOW THAT SHE BROUGHT PEACE TO MY WORLD BEFORE SHE DEPARTED OURS WHILE "WAGING PEACE" IN OLYMPIA WASHINGTON. SHE IS A BOLD AND BEAUTIFUL SOUL. REST IN PEACE..RACHEL add your comments

Yet again ... by jackslucid 3:45pm Mon Mar 17 '03 jackslucid@hotmail.com print comment ... my comments have been left hanging halfway up this thread, which is a minor shame for me, but a greater shame for the drive for peace because they show unequivably the depth of hatred aimed at activists and palestinians by many within israeli society. I do not beleive it helps anyone to hide this hatred away, let the comments of KPSS and other SS's be seen for what they are: racist genocidal hatred. [However, perhaps this might give the KPss's of this world pause to thought, that there opinions are so far beyond acceptable...] add your comments

Thanks, Rachel, for your courage by Jenny 3:49pm Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment Thanks Rachel for being so brave and standing up to the war machine. You follow Goodman, Schwerner, and Cheney into the sacred ground and will never be forgotten. With deep sorrow for Rachel's family and friends. Rachel Corrie, Presente! Jenny Florida, USA add your comments

Carnival of the Chicken Hawks by Rowan Berkeley 4:05pm Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment http://web.israelinsider.com/bin/en.jsp?enPage=ArticlePage&enDisplay;=view&enDispWhat;=object&enDispWho;=Article%5El2088&enZone;=Security&enVersion;=0& If you clickon the above link, you will be transported to a place where men and women of the American Jewish persuasion make jokes about peace protesters becoming speed bumps. I caution you not to lose your precious tranquillity. Do not rant, rave, tear your hair (as they do at their funerals). It will avail you nothing. Only cold calculated machiavellian political skill will help us now. Today has been the Fast of Esther. This minor festival commemorates the legendary seduction of King Ahashverosh of Persia by the Jewish vizier's daughter, which prevented the massacre planned by the wicked Haman. On this day Jewish children play pranks, and so do some adults. I imagine the talking fish story was a prank. They are really cooking on Galei Zahal (israel Army Radio). Esther and her sisters rock. Do not imagine that they will suddenly become weak and impressionable, because they will not. They and their forebears have spent several thousand years perfecting their delusory quasi-national fantasm. add your comments

May she rests in Peace by Saddned by Rachel's murder 7:35pm Mon Mar 17 '03 print comment God bless you Rachel. Your death will not go in vain. You will be the symbol of courage and humanity. Now rest in peace sweet Rachel, you do not deserve to see more ugliness of this unhuman world. add your comments

"Fair and Balanced " My Backside by Clark A. Jerr 11:18pm Mon Mar 17 '03 address: 4200-F Mozart Brigade Lane Fairfax, VA phone: 703-691-1177 malark@cox.net print comment This is only the beginning of Israel's blatant disregard for human life. No, its not the first murder, but, its the first in a series that will be hidden in the U.S. media behind the guise of Iraqi War coverage. If Fox news, to mention just one, was really fair and balance; thier report of Rachel's death would have at least mentioned the eye-witnesses and what they saw. Instead, they reported the incident as an accident saying she fell. Any intelligent person knows that bulldozers are fairly slow moving machines. It seems to me that the driver would have had time to apply the brakes unless Rachel threw herself directly in front it having a running start. Another Israeli geets away with murder (Liberty 2). add your comments

Israeli army can be blamed allright by John Veldhuis 7:53am Tue Mar 18 '03 print comment The Israeli can be blamed because they don't give a damn about killing civilians. When an Israeli soldier is punished for "unsoldierly" behaviour, like murdering non-combattants or torturing civilans, it is not for the behaviour, but for getting caught. Home demolitions have nothing to do with protecting the citizens of Israel from terrorists. It is more like a stupid and inhumane act of revenge. It is on the other hand a good way of creating more anti-Israel emotions. Who do you think profit by this? No, not the Palestinians. Right, the settlers and their racist supporters. add your comments

its not fair by Avi 8:28am Tue Mar 18 '03 print comment her death is not fair i'm against any kind of violence. her eath sound so cruel and odd but here is the but part... for more then 2 years, israelis in gaza strip suffering from bombs that palestioans launched on them why this woman as a woman that "peace" is located so high in her mind and action, why she preffer to take the side of the palestians? every one knows how cruel is arafat the fact tha he killed so many people i his life. in 1985 his organization sent terrorist to take conrol on the "akala laura" ship. his men in a cruel act, kicked an old disable man into the sea water since then, the p.l.o organization succeeded to "contribute" just death and cahos into the world. its kind of hypocracy to blame israel in this conflict. i believe that the fact that people who "admire" the peace like this woman who died, but preffer to go with the palestian side, its not because they want peace. and here si my point, they just search for an opportunity to go against israel policy! so why people wants to go versus israel???? you all know the answer. but to be honest, i dont know the answer. in this cruel game. i hope that the side with more truth spirit, the real peace men, that is the side tha will earn normallity again add your comments

she did not take a "side" by bart s. 8:49am Tue Mar 18 '03 print comment She took the poeple's side - those who were occupied. She did not give a damm about Arafat or Sharon - her stand was against war, against occupation, against state teror and with those who did not have the power to protest all. The Ism as much as I know works both with palestinians and israelians - not taking any side but the side of the oppressed. add your comments

2 by 2 9:20am Tue Mar 18 '03 address: 2 phone: 2 2 print comment Rachel we will never forget you. You were acting in our name, in the name of the voiceless, in the name of the concerned and your example will prevail. We will continue your work and we will expel the opressor from Palestine. The task of the ISM has been corageous and as you fall, hundreds will replace you in the frontline. The virus of fascism is growing naturally in all those involved in reinvented Israel. Paranoia-addicted cowards do not want international presence in the ghetto. The IDF is one of the most cruel armies in the world, since it is dedicated almost exclusively to punish civilians. They are not real soldiers but circumstantial paranoics easy to provoke and a bunch of criminals able to murder 5-years old children in cold blood. The guy that killed Rachel is ill, as ill are those who still try to give a justification for her assassination. Some Israelis are so stupid that they really believe in the logics of endless war to defend themselves, the only way to stop the ultras in Israel is by attacking the State and the Capital. Get ready to block the roads. Paralize Apartheid Israel Rachel Corrie...presente!!! Sionista huevףn a tomar por culo IDF = War Criminals, you could be prosecuted for playing this crazy nationalist game. The one who killed Rachel is definitely done. 2 add your comments

not a murder by avvv 12:44pm Tue Mar 18 '03 print comment The pictures show precisely that the protestor was in a dead spot of the bulldozer driver. Her picture shows that she was hit from something with jags - a flying rock (possibly iron rod for the bulldozer was acting in an area with numerous ruins) and not from the bulldozer's shovel. She obviously wasn't ran over as the activists claimed because in that case she would have been completely crushed and not have only a head injury. When dozens of tons pass over you you die right away. It's impossible that the bulldozer ran over her and came back to ascertaining death. Maybe that activists wanted to have political fortunes by getting hit by a bulldozer (she had nothing to look fore in a fire zone during a military operation), she only thought it will end up in an injury and not death. No doubt the driver didn't mean to run over her and it was a mistake. The accident happened because D9 bollduzer is made for massive and rough construction works and therefore it has limited visibility. It is not designed to have people running around its wheels, especially in the dead spots. add your comments

sorry avvv, but not the case by Rowan Berkeley 12:49pm Tue Mar 18 '03 print comment that dozer isn't a D9. The D9s are indeed gigantic and have deliberately poor visibility to make them even more terrifying, but that is an ordinary dozer with an ordinary front and center type windscreen. And it did drive right into her, and it did push her under, and it crushed her skull and her ribs, and her clinical death did not occur for some time, and that is normal. sorry fella, but you might as well face reality. add your comments

this is all bullshit by ahmad from gaza strip 1:15pm Tue Mar 18 '03 address: gaza print comment she brought it on her self. how stupid can you be to stand like this in front of d9? don't believe the eye-withnesse they are all arab terrorists. add your comments

Centruionoflight by Joe 10:02pm Tue Mar 18 '03 address: Darwin Award phone: Smoch Joe print comment She is up for a Darwin Award add your comments

Katie by Katie 10:48pm Tue Mar 18 '03 address: Rachel's Honor phone: Stassen KAtie print comment Rachel had the courage to fight for humanity. Her sanity gives me hope in a time of disregard for human lives. Her death reminds me that people are dying everyday, people like you or me are dying. Her death hit home, and revealed to me what she was fighting to prevent. Wake up America, people are people whether or not they are born in the United States. Every life is equally valuable whether American or Palestinian or Iraqi whatever. I can't believe the insanity. Find peace in your hearts and share it with the world as Rachel had the courage to do. www.chinacatkatie@yahoo.com add your comments

There's a war out there by MadCow 4:46am Wed Mar 19 '03 print comment ומכ המחלמבו ,םיניתשלפה םע המחלמ תפוקתב ונחנא עדפהל הנכסהש תעדל ךירצ ביואל רזועש ימ ,המחלמב .ישחומ רבד איה ינשה דצהמ ,לארשי יביואל הרזע איה .התומ לע באכ וא רעצ יל ןיא .תביואל המצע תא הכפה וזככו add your comments

דואמ לודג דחא ףולב by ינויגיהה 7:16am Wed Mar 19 '03 print comment דחא ףולב הזש םיאור הנומתבו םירוחש םייסנכמ הל שיש םיאור דחא הנומתב תורופא הינשה םוקמה ומכ םירחא םירבד םיאור פירופחדה לש הנומתבו ינשהמ דחא הנש אוהש םיינויגה ויהת add your comments

Definition of STupidity: by Barry 9:51am Wed Mar 19 '03 print comment http://www.inform.umd.edu/News/Diamondback/ add your comments

רתוי הריהב היינש הנומתו ההכ תחא הנומת by לג 11:18pm Wed Mar 19 '03 gal@hotmail.com print comment תוריהבל ןתוא ךפוהש המ ,תוקבואמ םייסנכמה םג רשאכ .רתוי add your comments

jail them all by kevin 9:14am Fri Mar 21 '03 print comment "Punish Anti-War Anarchists" Posted by Kevin Willmann Friday, March 21, 2003 Now that the war to liberate Iraq has begun, our nation should put aside partisan differences and come together as one behind our president and our military. Unfortunately, with some people, that is not happening. Weג€™ve seen it in comments over the last two days by several elected officials in our government. These people are so blinded by their dislike of George W. Bush that they resort to cheap partisan shots at him. They do this while our men and women in uniform are risking their lives to free Iraq and disarm a rogue regime. I believe the disharmony theyג€™ve exhibited has inspired nations like France publicly to hinder our diplomacy. Likewise, such rhetoric has inspired the alleged anti-war movement to continue its protests, and even escalate its tactics. Today, these groups went out into the streets again, attempting to shut down commerce in San Francisco's financial district, as well as other cities across the nation. As I write this, a near riot is taking place in San Francisco. Protesters at one intersection held banners with the photo of Che Guevara and chanted, ''Bush, you liar. We're going to set your ass on fire.'' Amazingly, this was reported on SFGate.com. I thought these people were supposed to be ''peace activists.'' That incident didnג€™t sound very peaceful. As someone who has counterprotested these supposed ''peace'' activists, I can tell you they are anything but peaceful. They are violent, vitriolic, and hateful. Iג€™ve heard many of them use racist remarks to describe other counterprotesters, yet they claim to be against racism. They call America a ''terrorist nation'' and compare George W. Bush to Adolf Hitler. They say this is ''dissent'' and they are only ''questioning our government.'' Today, the true face of the so-called ''peace movement'' is coming out in their acts of civil disobedience. When people chain themselves to poles, block traffic, and vandalize property, they are not acting peaceful. Their actions are not ''freedom of speech'' or ''dissent.'' Instead, these actions are a form of domestic terrorism. In a time of war, it is also sedition. Freedom of expression ends when it becomes criminal and infringes on the rights of other people. Additionally, as our terror threat level has been elevated, these people present a public security threat. Law enforcement gets diverted from its real duty of protecting their communities. At the same time, it takes time and resources away from investigating and preventing possible acts of terrorism. Even worse, the actions of these mobs only embolden people like Saddam Hussein and threaten to hurt the resolve of our military currently in harmג€™s way. Unfortunately, the policy in punishing these people has been one of ''catch and release.'' There is no real punishment for these demonstrators. It is only a small fine and they are released back on the streets to raise more havoc. This should change now! These hellions should pay a heavy penalty other than a slap on the wrist for disrupting San Francisco and other cities. The organizers of these groups should pay an even heavier price for stirring up the emotions of their groups. They do not have the right to interrupt the daily flow of life of this country. They must not be allowed to get away with disrupting our communities. add your comments

םינוש םירזודלובה תונומתב by רקוח יאנותיע 2:04pm Fri Mar 21 '03 print comment .תונומתב גצומ אוהשכ םג םיילגר ןיא רקשל ירמגל תונוש תונומת יתש םיגיצמ םתא ךיא רזודלוב רוריבב םיאור הנושארה הנומתב רשאכ ..רחא רזודלוב ללכב םיאור ינשבו דחא רזודלובה לש גגה לע םיסנפה לע ולכתסת ןיבהל ידכב רזודלובה לש תיזחה לע ולכתסתו .םינוש םירזודלוב ינשב רבודמש הזו רזודלוב לומ דומעל השפיט איהש הז רזודלוב רוצעל הרוביג תויהל התסינ איהש .הייופש אל איהש הארמ קר הלש ףוגה םע תממוסמ ללכב תיארנ איה הלש תונומתה יפל . תפרוטמ וא .ןמוקרנ יל תוריכזמש םייניע הל שי !התושפיט ללגב השפיח איהש המ תא הלביק איה add your comments

רורט תכמות דוע לכה ךסב איה by חרזא 2:09pm Fri Mar 21 '03 print comment תסירה תא עונמל התסינ איהש םכל ריכזמ ינא .םישנו םידלי חצרש לבחמ לש ותיב .לבחמ ומכ קוידב רורט תכמות איה יליבשב .ער שממ אל הזו תוחפ תחא תלבחמ ונל שי וישכע add your comments

הדבאתה איהש םשרתמ ינא by גולוכיספ 2:34pm Fri Mar 21 '03 print comment לומ דומעל תויהל לוכי םדא שפיט המכ ?הלועפב רזודלוב לבחמה לש תיבה לומ הניגפה אל איהש רזומ .הומכ םישנו םידלי חצרש ירה םישנו םידלי חצר אוהש תפכיא אל הל םא .התמ איהש תפכיא אל שממ ילש .םייוציפ הל ןתי ןדאל ןבש add your comments

תוחפ תדבאתמ תלבחמ דוע by ךאלמ 10:38pm Sun Mar 23 '03 print comment הארנכ איהו םידבאתמ םיעגושמ אלמ םלועה .םילותב 72 הל תשפחמש תדבאתמ דוע תצק הל היהתש יל הארנ תיארנ איהש ומכ .םיכסיש םימשב והשימ אוצמל היעב add your comments

Avi: "it is not fair" by Akhalil 10:15pm Wed Sep 24 '03 print comment "but here is the but part... for more then 2 years, israelis in gaza strip suffering from bombs that palestioans launched on them" Well, hold your horses. Why the hell are YOU Israelis in the Gaza Strip? Have you heard that it is occupied territories? Or did this news not arrive at the Kibbutz you are in yet? "why this woman as a woman that "peace" is located so high in her mind and action, why she preffer to take the side of the palestians? Because they are the ones who possessed the land before you arrived from Europe 55 years ago. They are the ones who have been killed, maimed, injured, expelled and oppressed continuously ever since. They are the VICTIMS, and you are the occupying colonialists. It is not a preference to take the Palestinas' side, it is the only right moral stance. Taking your side would be rooting for the criminal. Is this hard to understand? "every one knows how cruel is arafat the fact tha he killed so many people i his life." No we don't. First, we don't care about Arafat but the people, and he is one of them if they say so, not you. Second, the balance sheet for murders, assassinations, and other violence is in favor of Arafat, not Israel(is). There is no comparsion between the numbers killed in Palestinian actions and Israeli actions. And, besides, it is their land which YOU occupy, and they have the right to defend it and to claim back what was taken from them by force. You had 55 years to peacfully give it back as required by UN resolutions and by international law. You violated and continue to violate every single one of the. Regardless, the answer to you complaints is very simple: If you don't like their resistance, give them back what you took from them and/or leave. Else, shut up and die quietly as as time and circumstance allow. "in 1985 his organization sent terrorist to take conrol on the "akala laura" ship. his men in a cruel act, kicked an old disable man into the sea water since then, the p.l.o organization succeeded to "contribute" just death and cahos into the world. its kind of hypocracy to blame israel in this conflict." It is even more hypocritical to claim that we are hypocrites. What you say is just background noise, a tactic to fuzz the charge against you. Listen, it is very simple. If God did not exist, then everything is allowed, even murder, and YOU have killed the Palestinian GOD. You did not just kill their God, but you also killed His angels and every little creature that served Him. Is there a possibility of you ever admitting that you were wrong, and asking for forgiveness? It is the only thing that would finally end the conflict within you and that you imposed and still are imposing on the poor Palestinians. "i believe that the fact that people who "admire" the peace like this woman who died, but preffer to go with the palestian side, its not because they want peace. and here si my point, they just search for an opportunity to go against israel policy!" Yeah, what a great insight! Those damn idiots die because it gives them great pleasure to spite Israel. Vah, Vah, Vah. This is on bar with the theory of relativity as one of the greatest Jewish contributions to our understanding of the universe. I will recommend you for an Nobel Idiot Prize. "so why people wants to go versus israel???? you all know the answer. but to be honest, i dont know the answer." in this cruel game. i hope that the side with more truth spirit, the real peace men, that is the side tha will earn normallity again" Thank you for not being sure. So, why the hell are you killing them for? Is it just for sport? Or is it because your friend on the Kibbutz thinks that the Palestinians should be killed? add your comments