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Is the IDF practicing for ethnic cleansing? Latin
by Daniel 5:26am Thu Oct 10 '02

IDF performs demonstration exercize on village that has been cleansed of its residents.
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In today's Yediot Achronot, there is an article about the IDF's preparations for the coming "crucial year" in its fight to crush the Palestinian uprising. The article begins by describing an exersize performed the day before for an audience including the Prime Minister, Defense Minister, and roughly half of Sharon's cabinet.

The scenario for the excersize was an all-out assault on a village that has been abandoned by its inhabitants, with only armed fighters remaining. The Israeli soldiers come in with the newest and heaviest weaponry and bulldozers they have, and basically flatten the place.

To anyone that has been observing the the fighting of the last two years, and the Israeli incursions into Palestinian towns under the pretext of chasing terrorists since early 2002, this scene should seem very strange. The IDF, in all the recent fighting, has been operating in more or less heavily populated civilian areas, and has never had the luxury of assaulting a village that had been cleared of its residents. This exersize is certainly not practice for the kind of situations these soldiers have found themselves in up to now.

In my mind this raises the question: is this a situation that the IDF expects to encounter in the coming rounds of fighting? And what basis do they have for expecting to encounter villages emptied of their inhabitants, other than a plan to actively drive out the civilian inhabitants before flushing out the remaining fighters, demolishing many of the homes in the process? The excersize described in the article looks eerily like 1948, when the Israeli army cleared hundreds of villages of their inhabitants through scare tactics, before coming in and trashing what remained.

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It is frightningly so- Latin
by Zionist. 6:20am Thu Oct 10 '02

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Your suspended judgement is quite rediculous.
ariel sharon plans a final mass exodus for the None Jewish inhabitants of Palestine.
This is his last chance before he passes away( he is over seventy y.o.) to materialize his wilder dreams of an Israel free of none jews.
The nut publicly declared a few weeks ago of his plan to nuke the residents of Iraq.
He has the bloodiest resume of all the current democracies in the world and will die before he will ever be held accountable for his part in the destruction of the civilians of the Mid East.

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speak up! Latin
by manipulated or manipulate 6:25am Thu Oct 10 '02

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israelis, it is crucial that you understand how the rest of the world sees you.
they view you as a cult of fanatics ... the few who will stop at nothing to achieve their ends.

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to the cult of fanatics who identify with Latin
by zionism 7:07am Thu Oct 10 '02

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...you adopted the worst of nazi traits and wisdom and institutionalized it into a fanatic and deranged culture...that perplexes sane individuals.

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... Hebrew
by Lovem 7:48am Thu Oct 10 '02

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Having said that... I want to reiterate that your
culture is so beautiful in countless ways. You
must be disciplined when protecting your image
around the world, so the rest of us can witness
your humanity instead of your heartless behaviour
to the none Jewish Palestinian Citizens.
Again, we appreciate the positive aspects of your
country... make them emerge often, for the sake
of your country,

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IDF and Politicians Latin
by * 2:21pm Fri Oct 11 '02

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The IDF does what the politicians tell them to do. They may give advice in situations, but must always follow the orders of the political entities. One can not blame the IDF for following orders. One can blame them for not doing a good job following orders, or taking orders that are illegal, and not take complaints seriously.....or recognizing that they kill civilians.

The fault however lies on the politicians and the people of Israel who elected them. In a democracy the people have the power to make changes for good or worse...in Israel it has been for the worse, both for the Palestinians and the Israelis. But to understand why the people elected these criminals that are now in charge, one must look at the threat the people live in on a daily basis. By electing Sharon, Israel elected a man who they thought could bring security.....Israel got more deaths instead. The people of Israel wants peace, but chose the wrong way to achive peace. Only true justice will bring peace. Justice is found in international law. Through dialogue, international recommendations and international law peace will come. Through military might, weapons, occupation and humiliation; death will come. It always has and it always will.

"There is no path to peace, peace is the path"

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What the hell is going on? Latin
by kurtis 10:13am Tue Oct 15 '02

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I'M A BLACK MAN HERE IN THE U.S.A. AND I KNOW SOME WHAT ABOUT BEING OPPRESSED. BUT I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THOSE FUCKING FANATIC ISREALI JEWS ARE DESTROYING THE PALESTIANS
CLEARLY FOR THE SOUL PURPOSE OF STEALING THEIR LAND. MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS GOES OUT TO THE PALESTIANS WHO HAVE
FOUGHT AND DIE FOR THE LIBERATION OF THE PALESTIAN PEOPLE. HOW, IS IT THAT
ISREAL CAN SLAUGHTER INNOCENT LIVES INCLUDING CHILDREN JUST
THROWING ROCKS AT SOLIDERS AND NO ONE IS WILLING TO STEP FOWARD AND SAID ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. BUT THE U.S.A. WANT TO DRUM UP SUPPORT FOR AN ATTACK ON IRAQ. TO BE TRUTHFUL ISREAL
IS THE BIGGEST THREAT IN THE MIDDLE EAST WITH UNITED STATES
AID AND SUPPORT. WHAT IS THE REAL PURPOSE OF ARIEL SHARON AND GEORGE W. BUSH. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?

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Nothing new here Hebrew
by John Veldhuis 3:10pm Tue Oct 15 '02

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Well, ethnic cleansing is the basis of the Israeli
state.
Without the ethnic cleansing, performed in and
before 1948, there would be no Israel. So,
nothing new.

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To Kurtis Latin
by David James Vickery 2:58pm Wed Oct 16 '02
address: Nablus, in northern PALESTINE dhoud_in_palestine@yahoo.com

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Dear Kurtis,
It's about the oil reserves in a geogrphical area known as the 'Caspian Basin'. You can search Google on this. In reality, Israel is an extension of the U.S.A.-they want to finish what they did to the native Palestinians, starting from before the State of Israel was created in 1948, this time using U.S.- supplied Apache Attack Helicopters, F-16 Warplanes, and 61 Tonne Merkava tanks made in Israel. And a lot of U.S. taxpayers' money. Israel would not exist but for ethnic cleansing.
At the same time, the U.S. wants to conquer Iraq, then Iran, then Syria, so they can establish a permanent military presence in this area, thus controlling the area AND THE OIL. Its about CONTROL, POWER, MONEY, and they don't give a damn about United Nations Resolutions, past, present or future.
Kurtis, I'm a Canadian who has lived and worked here in Nablus, with Palestinians, for more than a year and a half. Trust me, the only thing I have to fear is the Israeli Soldiers who can arrive at any time of the day or night, scaring the hell out of us all. (tanks rumbling by my bedroom window at 4:30 in the morning) They are the only 'terrorists' I've seen here.
If you haven't already, please try reading Edward Said, or Uri Avnery. They're both good.
All the best, David/Dhoud

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Palestinians slaughter jewish children Hebrew
by muslim 6:02pm Wed Oct 16 '02

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stop screaming, Kurtis

the truth is here:

Children on both sides of the conflict have been
killed in the violence. Any child's death is a
tragedy, and the Jewish people mourn the loss of
all lives - but especially those of children.
However, the underlying causes of these deaths
are different on the Palestinian side and the
Israeli side.

Throughout the present conflict, the Palestinian
Authority has encouraged children to participate
as combatants against Israelis. Children as young
as 5 years old are trained in paramilitary youth
groups and summer camps and are indoctrinated to
hate Israelis and Jews via the PA-controlled
media and school curriculum. They are told that
they will become "martyrs" if they die fighting
the Israelis, that they will ascend to heaven,
and that their family will be monetarily
compensated for their "heroism."

The PA has deliberately employed a strategy that
uses children as human shields to attack
previously agreed-upon Israeli military positions
in a 4-stage battle formation. The American
Academy of Pediatrics has condemned this
deliberate use of children in battle by the PA.

While the majority of injured Palestinian
children have been cynically used as human
shields or combatants, others have been injured
during Israeli retaliations to Palestinian
military attacks. These deaths would not have
occurred if the Palestinians did not initiate
attacks against negotiated Israeli positions,
Israeli settlements, Israeli towns and villages
within the pre-1967 borders, or innocent Israeli
civilians. Israel has not initiated any attack,
but only has retaliated against PA installations
that are used as staging areas for attacks
against Israel. These include PA police stations
that are used to launch mortar attacks against
Israeli towns and villages, or the Voice of
Palestine radio station that incites anti-Israel
violence.

Israeli children have been killed in deliberate
terror attacks against innocent civilians. In
some cases, Israeli children themselves have been
the intentional targets of these attacks. For
example, the murders of 10-month old Shelhevet
Pass, who was shot in the head by a PA police
sniper, and two 14-year old boys, Yosef (Yossi)
Ish-Ran and Ya'acov (Kobi) Mandell, who were
beaten to death and their bodies mutilated in a
cave outside Tekoa.







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